[MHml] San Francisco isn't a bar harbor- closed the gate yesterday

Fri Jan 22 08:50:38 EST 2010

sf bar buoy (not the lightship channel entrance buoy) 
_http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=37.781+N+122.599+W&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=%2B37%C2%B0+46
'+51.60%22,+-122%C2%B0+35'+56.40%22&gl=us&ei=TsNYS8ysLZLCNuf9-OAE&ved=0CAkQ8
gEwAA&ll=37.769358,-122.585278&spn=0.119955,0.302811&t=h&z=12_ 
(http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=37.781+N+122.599+W&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=+37°+
46'+51.60",+-122°+35'+56.40"&gl=us&ei=TsNYS8ysLZLCNuf9-OAE&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA&l
l=37.769358,-122.585278&spn=0.119955,0.302811&t=h&z=12)  not  on the bar 

seems gps/google/chart/satellite views agree you can see drege marks on  
both- its the private buoy between and just north of channel markers G5 and  
G7 
_http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/?lat=37.781365860467126&lon=-122.59866714477539&zoom=14_ 
(http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/?lat=37.781365860467126&lon=-122.59866714477539&zoom=14)  don't  forget to put slider bar to see the 
bottom through the chart (Thanks DAN!)
Its a shame that you can put the buoy coordinates   
37.781 N 122.599 W
into this google search box the  same way as google..or am I missing how to 
do that?

Here's where the bar pilot probably got "carried away"
_http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/?lat=37.75001868257303&lon=-122.692737579345
7&zoom=14_ 
(http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/?lat=37.75001868257303&lon=-122.6927375793457&zoom=14)  

_http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46026_ 
(http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46026) 
amazingly- google has the buoys already- I searched for a coordinate and it 
 gave me back the station number with link, data
_http://maps.google.com/maps?near=%2B37%C2%B0+46'+51.60%22,+-122%C2%B0+35'+5
6.40%22+(37.781000,+-122.599000)&geocode=CQc3FK1SvVh5FQh-QAIdqEmx-A&q=37.759
+N+122.833+W&f=l&gl=us&hl=en&sll=37.777703,-122.594461&sspn=0.029985,0.07570
3&ie=UTF8&ll=38.175592,-122.566223&spn=0.954337,2.422485&t=h&z=9&iwloc=A_ 
(http://maps.google.com/maps?near=+37°+46'+51.60",+-122°+35'+56.40"+(37.781000
,+-122.599000)&geocode=CQc3FK1SvVh5FQh-QAIdqEmx-A&q=37.759+N+122.833+W&f=l&g
l=us&hl=en&sll=37.777703,-122.594461&sspn=0.029985,0.075703&ie=UTF8&ll=38.17
5592,-122.566223&spn=0.954337,2.422485&t=h&z=9&iwloc=A) 

cheers
bob

In a message dated 1/21/2010 1:09:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
k38bob at aol.com writes:

Although our typical storms/wind come from the west/north, el nino is  
making for some interesting weather here- complete with thunderstorms and  hail. 
Tornadoes to the south (did anyone see the reynolds 33 blown out of the  
water sitting on the dock on the news). Yesterday a "bar pilot" 
_http://www.sfbarpilots.com/_ (http://www.sfbarpilots.com/)  couldn't  get back on his 
pilot boat (report below). I've heard these guys talk..in  severe conditions, 
the ship turns broadside to the wind/waves and the pilot  boat comes in the 
lee and the pilot steps from rope ladder to the pilot  boat which is rising 
and falling in the lee of the ship. 
_http://www.sfbarpilots.com/Operations/PilotLadderRequirements/tabid/84/Default.aspx_ 
(http://www.sfbarpilots.com/Operations/PilotLadderRequirements/tabid/84/Default.aspx)   
fun site for current and historical winds 
_http://sfports.wr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/wind/windbin.cgi?x=303&y=277_ 
(http://sfports.wr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/wind/windbin.cgi?x=303&y=277)   
sf bar buoy shows 6.8m wave ht. 
_http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_realtime.php?station=46237_ 
(http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_realtime.php?station=46237)  i  assume that's near the channel and not in the shoal/surf zone.. 
>>>Even old-salt ship pilots had trouble. In the early morning,  the wind 
was screeching so badly - 69 mph offshore - that the Golden Gate was  
essentially shut down for a few hours, leaving one pilot stranded at sea. 
The pilot, Capt. Sean Gabe of Walnut Creek, had finished guiding a  
container ship to 12 miles outside the Golden Gate, where 20-foot waves  prevented 
him from getting on his boat and heading back to shore, said Pete  McIsaac, 
president of the Bar Pilots Association.  
"He got what we call 'carried away,' " McIsaac said. That meant that  
because he couldn't disembark, he had to just stay on the ship - as it headed  to 
its next destination of Los Angeles. He'll have to fly home today, McIsaac  
said. 
"That's the first time that's happened in four or five years," he  said.

Read more: 
_http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/21/MNIP1BKRP1.DTL#ixzz0dHThBPnn_ 
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/21/MNIP1BKRP1.DTL#ixzz0dHThBPnn) 
<<<<
cheers
bob

In a message dated 1/14/2010 11:14:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
k38bob at aol.com writes:

Ok, you're making a different point now. Originally you said there is  no 
bar outside the gate. Now, if it isn't a continuous bar, it isn't a bar  
entrance. It would be a continuous bar if it wasn't dredged making the deep  
water channel you mentioned. You can see the dredged channel
_http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=point+bonita+ca.&ie=UTF8&hq=&
hnear=Point+Bonita+Light,+Mill+Valley,+M
arin,+California+94941&gl=us&ei=hjVNS8CBCJP0sgO6x-CKAQ&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA&t=h&ll=37.772377,-122.609482&spn=0.013773
,0.031114&z=15_ 
(http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=point+bonita+ca.&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Point+Bonita+Light,+Mill+Valley,+Marin,+California+949
41&gl=us&ei=hjVNS8CBCJP0sgO6x-CKAQ&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA&t=h&ll=37.772377,-122.609
482&spn=0.013773,0.031114&z=15) 

I only make this issue because we have too many fatalities in  that area 
not to mention various rescues, capsizes, sinkings to  minimize the hazard 
with symantics.
cheers
bob- who has been on the race deck when boats and lives have been lost  in 
that area

In a message dated 1/12/2010 6:15:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
steelsil2 at yahoo.com writes:

What San Francisco bar?  Huge ships go in and  out of San Francisco.  I've 
done it a few times by yacht.   The only bar is if you go on the wrong side 
of the pilings for the  Golden Gate bridge.  "Bar" harbors are quite shallow 
in the  entrance.  There are plenty of them on the West coast of the  US, 
but San Francisco isn't one of  them.

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