[MHml] (no subject)

[Roy Mills]

Thank you Chris.   I was aware that Rave and Windrider were  associated, but I was unaware of all the corporate changes which had an influence on them. I guess the crux, however, is as you surmise at the end of your very comprehensive posting. I had completely forgotten about the existence of the Rave until I read about it in the old issue of Multimag, Tri foiler I did know about, sort of subconciously.
        Roy
  From: Chris Ostlind 
  To: Informed discussion of multihull issues 
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [MHml] (no subject)
  In all this big business BS, the Rave product got totally lost and slipped away into ignominy, just as the, now discontinued, Hobie Trifoiler did. Too complex a boat, too much hassle at the launch site, too narrow of a bandwidth for really nasty sailing speeds, etc. Just too many too's to make for a great boat. The Trifoiler may have suffered from other issues and if Greg Ketterman reads this list, perhaps he can illuminate the process.

  I've sailed both the Trifoiler and the Rave in San Pedro, California's Hurricane Gulch and found them to be wonderful machines... when in their element. They really like smooth, more or less protected waters, with a steady, potent breeze to light-up their potential. Both boats can really haul-ass in those conditions and can generate certifiable, neck warping G-forces in turns, as well as flat-out straight-line velocity that smokes the fastest of beach cats, regardless of size. Both of these boats have clocked in the mid, thirty knot region in the right conditions and are, without a doubt, true high performers on a reasonable budget. There just aren't many sailors who find the whole, ultra-performance deal, all that compelling. And so, they died.

  I see the Moth foilers as being a part of that same paradigm. Sure, they can bring it in the hands of a tuned and talented sailor, but they also have to be fiddled with to launch, cost a bundle for what you get and if they break, how long does it take to get the parts to get that bad boy back on track?

  The Rave sorted through many of these same negative issues several years ago and there aren't really any good solutions in the works since then. You want to go hyper-fast, then expect to hyper-fiddle to get there. Such have been the rules for all really fast vehicles (of any kind) since day one.

  Others may have their own take on all this, but that's mine.

  Chris


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